Blasted Heath, as I'm sure you know, are the purveyors of extremely fine fiction. Among the Heathen family is one Damien Seaman, an author who is producing work that is engaging, thought provoking and original. I reviewed his novel The Killing Of Emma Gross here and the new novella, Berlin Burning here.
There is some common ground between the two and there are also marked differences. I asked Damien a few questions in the hope that I could explore his thoughts on each and dig a little into his motivations.
Among the similarities between the two works is the fact that I'd have no hesitation recommending either of them to anyone who enjoys an engaging and powerful read.
Here's how it went down:
Q: Your novel The Killing Emma Gross is based upon a true crime in the
Weimar Republic whereas the novella Berlin Burning is a work that is entirely
fictitious. Did you find working without the constraints of a factual
tale to be liberating or did it add unforeseen problems to your writing?
A: God yes – BerlinBurning was much more liberating. Trying to mix fact and fiction the way I did
with Emma Gross is like putting two ferrets in a sack. It gets messy. That wasn’t a problem with the
new book.
If there was an
unforeseen problem, it was that the first draft made a godawful mess of having
two lead characters instead of just one, as I had in Emma Gross. So I had to
mature as a writer between the first and second drafts if I was going to make
it work.
That’s why it
then took me a whole year to write the second draft – much longer than I’d
hoped. That was me bashing my brains out against my technical limitations until
they stretched to encompass the story I wanted to tell. I fear that will be the
case with every book.
Q: Both books are set in Germany at around the same time. What is it that
drew you to this period and country?
A: I lived in
Berlin for three and a half years. Before long I found myself responding to the
way Berliners deal with their 20th century past – it was
intoxicating to me. There’s a real honesty there. A willingness to confront the
past. Most countries don’t do that – they lie to themselves about their past
instead.
For instance,
even though the Berlin wall is almost all gone, they decided to mark where it
used to be using bricks in the ground. They didn’t just leave a scar there;
they built one as a reminder.
The Weimar
Republic appealed because of its air of doomed glamour. It was an inspiring
time of creativity and breaking social, sexual and artistic boundaries. But of
course the Nazis’ rise to power put the kibosh on all of that. This gives a
palpable sense of tension and suspense because readers know what’s to come –
broadly speaking – whereas the characters have no idea.
Actually that
was one of the main appeals for me. Trying to depict a period that most see as
a mere prelude to Nazism. It didn’t feel like that at the time to those who
lived through it, and if nothing else I really wanted to get that across – that
historical events don’t always feel so significant while they’re happening. We
certainly have no idea what’s going to happen next. Much less how to avoid it.
You could also
argue that the period appeals because of its relevance to today. But that
wasn’t a conscious choice. After all, you can overdo the whole “Look how
similar things were then” bit. For example, if I describe a charismatic
politician who shook up the status quo, developed a manifesto that combined
nationalism and socialism, blamed the ills of his country on an outsider race
that had exploited his people for centuries… well, that could be Hitler or it
could be Alex Salmond. I trust you can see right away that this analogy isn’t
close enough for most people to accept as equivalent.
So I would
downplay any attempt to see today’s world as similar to that of the 1930s. Any
such similarities are purely at surface level. My main motivation has been to write
a sort of love letter to the republic which intrigued me, and to the Germans
who lived through it.
Q: The Killing Of Emma Gross focuses upon the drive of one detective,
Thomas Klein, whereas Berlin Burning features two police protagonists. Did you
shift to the two because of limitations in the novel or was it simply a case of
the characters appearing to you as a pair?
A: The real question
here is: what does it say about our culture that police novels are so popular
in the crime genre? There’s something vaguely depressing about that, in my
view.
Is there
anything so questionable as being unequivocally on the side of the law when the
law is so open to corruption? So dedicated to the preservation of property
rights or the rights of the rich and powerful?
Where’s the respect for the individual? The dissident? The downtrodden?
I think this is
why the best police novels take one of three routes. They either emphasise the
ridiculousness of the job using humour and camaraderie, as Ed McBain’s novels
do. Or they delve wholeheartedly into the corruption, a la James Ellroy. Or
they show the individual kicking against social and institutional prejudices,
as in the work of Philip Kerr – or even Simenon to some extent.
Actually, there
are novels that cross these boundaries – these categories aren’t mutually
exclusive. But generally an author tends to emphasise one of the three; for
ease of reference let’s dub them Humorous, Corrupt, and Existential.
Emma Gross is an
Existential police novel. For that, a lone hero is necessary. Berlin Burning is
a Humorous novel. For that, you really need the banter. Hence the two
detectives.
With each book I
was trying to make a different point, I think.
Emma Gross is
about a man so disconnected from society that he sometimes feels he has more in
common with the serial killer he’s captured than with his colleagues, who he
despises as venal idiots. He feels trapped and can’t see how to break out of
his malaise. He’s probably a metaphor for how I felt at that point in life.
Berlin Burning
is about two decent men trying to get on with their job while the world slowly
turns upside down around them. Both of them despise Nazism for different
reasons, but neither appreciate that they’ll soon be forced to work under that
regime or resign. Despite that, they manage to rise above it all so that
justice – of a sort – is done.
Of course, this
is all justification after the fact. At the gut level, the implication in your
question is spot on. These stories just appeared to me that way. Not fully-formed,
I might add. They evolved through the writing.
Q: It’s clear that your work has been extremely well-received – you’ve had
plaudits from the likes of Stuart MacBride, James Oswald, Helen Fitzgerald,
Tony Black and William Ryan. Are such comments and reviews in general things
that give you a lift or do you shy away from them?
A: Praise makes
anyone feel warm and fuzzy inside, doesn’t it?
I did ask people
for their opinions, certainly. Firstly because it’s a boost when people you
respect like what you do. Secondly because some of their readers might also end
up liking what I do and becoming my readers too. And, lastly, when you publish
what other authors think –for example on Amazon – this helps casual readers
make up their minds whether they might like what I’ve written even if they
don’t know me or the folks giving the plaudits.
Q: You clearly love to travel and have lived in some amazing places. Is
there anywhere else that you are keen to write about?
A: Yep, I’ve
been lucky to have been able to travel so much. I do have plans to write about
Sudan, Cairo, London, South Africa, Crete and New York in the next year or so.
But I’ve only been to half of those places. And these stories will be set in
the past anyway, which – as we all know – is another country again, and not one
that issues visas.
So I don’t base
my ideas on where I’ve been, per se. Though I may do some travelling to help
the research for some of them.
It’s probably
worth mentioning there are plenty of places I’ve been that haven’t inspired any
story ideas – Russia, for example. Don’t know why. Perhaps it’s because I find
the Russian mind utterly impenetrable. Perhaps there’s no real reason. I
suspect there isn’t a direct cause and effect relationship with this stuff –
not for me, anyway.
Q: Does your taste in fiction reflect your love of history? Do you
prefer modern interpretations of the past or novels that were written during a
time you’re curious about?
A: Great
question. I tend to prefer things written at the time I’m writing about – not
just novels, but diaries, biographies, autobiographies, letters, magazine
articles, films, plays….
I certainly
haven’t read that many historical novels recently. In fact, a couple of years
ago I tried to put together a top ten list of my favourite historical novels
and I struggled to fill it.
If historical
novels have a failing, it’s that they tend to strive for “relevance” by shoe-horning
in some sort of modern comparison to the people or events depicted. Or, even
worse, they try to offer some sort of lessons for readers to learn. God forbid.
Humans are incapable of learning from history, and nothing proves that more
than history itself. After all, the Holocaust didn’t stop ethnic cleansing in Bosnia
or Rwanda. Or even anti-Semitism in developed countries, if recent studies are
to be believed.
Also, too many
historical novels take sides. There’s nothing more ridiculous than passing judgements
on those who can’t answer back. If history has a point, it’s to understand, not
to condemn. If you’re in any doubt, just consider that we’ll one day be judged
according to some unguessable future standards that we might find horrifying. I
propose that we treat our ancestors with the same respect we might hope to
receive ourselves.
Right now I’m
reading a lot of non-fiction – the books of Nassim Taleb about probability and
randomness. Daniel Kahneman’s book about how we think. Essays by Christopher
Hitchens. Stuff that challenges my preconceptions and makes me think a bit.
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If you enjoyed that, then make sure you come back for more in the next posts from Damien where we'll find out about James Ellroy and get to explore the concept of free speech in a hugely thought-provoking piece. You really don't want to miss either of those.